How to Have a Better Relationship with Your Phone, with Joey Odom
The profound impact of the simple art of noticing…
When Joey Odom missed his son’s first soccer goal because he was looking at his phone, he had a realization: his phone was getting in the way of his best intentions as a Dad and a husband. Since then, he has been on a journey to change his relationship with his phone so that he can change the most important relationships in his life.

I heard about Joey from our mutual friend (and a favorite podcast guest,) Justin Whitmel Earley who recommended I share Joey’s message with my listeners. I am so glad I did! In this interview Joey is sharing data, insights, and encouragement for ways we can all move forward as parents who want to navigate these waters well. I think you’ll enjoy this conversation and leave it feeling empowered to take some steps to a happier, healthier family life ahead.
NOTES:
Learn more about Joey & ARO here!
{“Aro” means to notice.}
The 3-“M” parenting pattern:
We Model behavior.
Kids Mimic what we do.
We get MAD when we see them copying our behaviors.
Understand the power we have:
1. Believe: I can do this!
2. Start daily and small with time away from phone.
3. Establish sacred times and sacred places away from phones.
4. Look for cues. Times when kids are wanting to connect.
Justin Whitmel Earley on the podcast here and here
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